Cab you do "love" ?

[Bill Hemphill]

or is love something one feels when they respect others? You cannot "glee" someone. Can you "sad"? Or is sad a feeling? Anyone know a book title on this subject? I would think this would make for good discussion here.

[Enigma]

I have no idea what you are trying to say.

[Bill Hemphill]

We are victims of our own linguistic patterns. We attach meaning to words that are errant or different. 

If one can understand that, Personality can better be understood if we can deeper understand our own vulnerability to incorrect word usage.

If you wrong somebody, you can make them "feel" hurt. If one respects people, one can feel "love".

Can you "do" love? As in "I love you"? I think you feel the love. We feel the sadness, we can't sad someone.

[Enigma]

Love and respect are two different things.

[Bill Hemphill]

Respect is an action. Love is present in the presence of respect.  Respect is an action of attitude. Love then "brightens" awareness? I think so . . . . any interjections?

[Enigma]

You can respect someone and not love them.

[Bill Hemphill]

You can respect someone and not love them.

I don't think so. What about "love your enemy" ? To respect anyone, you must respect everyone.

[Enigma]

You can respect someone and not love them.

I don't think so.

There are tons of people I respect but I don't love. 

What about "love your enemy" ?

What about it? 

To respect anyone, you must respect everyone.

Useless vague bullshit saying.  Respect is earned, not given.  Do you seriously respect every two bit jackoff you pass on the street?  And by your logic, that means you must love everyone. 

[Bill Hemphill]

Love is not sex if that is what you are getting at. By your answer, you only respect people that agree with you which means you disrespect yourself. You're running off of your own personal Philosophy of life. It can never find truth,  only what it accepts. You should consider "understanding".





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"Useless vague bullshit saying.  Respect is earned, not given.  Do you seriously respect every two bit jackoff you pass on the street?  And by your logic, that means you must love everyone.  "

By your quote,I think you confuse the words honor and respect.

[Bill Hemphill]

Oh, Enigma, I do respect everyone and as a result I love the world.

[Enigma]

Love is not sex if that is what you are getting at.

It's not, I have no clue how you arrived at that assumption.

By your answer, you only respect people that agree with you which means you disrespect yourself.

Wrong again.  There are many people who I disagree with yet still respect. 

You're running off of your own personal Philosophy of life.

Aren't we all?

It can never find truth,  only what it accepts. You should consider "understanding".

Again with the vague metaphysical bullshit.  Do you have anything of substance to say?

By your quote,I think you confuse the words honor and respect.

After reading your posts I'm convinced you have a massive misconception of what the words love, respect, and honor actually mean. 

[pert -5]

Love and respect are two different things.

Respect without love?  What a tainted, miscreant pool of ignorance that would create...  Respect distinct from love is like saying that there can be daytime without a Sun.  Respect intrinsically means that you like/love what someone does or says.  Can you give an instance where respect exists without love?  Huh?  Hmmm?

I think you might be mistaking the word "respect" for "fear."

Or more importantly:  what is your definition of "love?"

[Bill Hemphill]

Enigma, It is possible to make your way through life and not work off of your own personal philosophy. It is called pioneering. Respect all and not necessarily what they say or think.

That is an important understanding if you want to pioneer Psychology.

[Enigma]

re·spect
3.
esteem for or a sense of the worth or excellence of a person, a personal quality or ability, or something considered as a manifestation of a personal quality or ability: I have great respect for her judgment.
4.
deference to a right, privilege, privileged position, or someone or something considered to have certain rights or privileges; proper acceptance or courtesy; acknowledgment: respect for a suspect's right to counsel; to show respect for the flag; respect for the elderly.

Hmm funny nothing about love in there. 

love
1.
a profoundly tender, passionate affection for another person.
2.
a feeling of warm personal attachment or deep affection, as for a parent, child, or friend.
3.
sexual passion or desire.
4.
a person toward whom love is felt; beloved person; sweetheart.

Can you give an instance where respect exists without love?  Huh?  Hmmm?

I respect Ron Paul, but I certainly don't love the man. 

[pert -5]

re·spect
3.
esteem for or a sense of the worth or excellence of a person, a personal quality or ability, or something considered as a manifestation of a personal quality or ability: I have great respect for her judgment.
4.
deference to a right, privilege, privileged position, or someone or something considered to have certain rights or privileges; proper acceptance or courtesy; acknowledgment: respect for a suspect's right to counsel; to show respect for the flag; respect for the elderly.

Hmm funny nothing about love in there. 

love
1.
a profoundly tender, passionate affection for another person.
2.
a feeling of warm personal attachment or deep affection, as for a parent, child, or friend.
3.
sexual passion or desire.
4.
a person toward whom love is felt; beloved person; sweetheart.

Can you give an instance where respect exists without love?  Huh?  Hmmm?

I respect Ron Paul, but I certainly don't love the man. 

Copy and paste responses.  You are quite gifted, I'm sure...  So, the dictionary doesn't use the word "love" and that means that "respect" is bereft of it? 

For one thing, the definition of love that you pasted there is one-sided.  That is sentimental, personal, fixed love.  There is also the love as between the positive and negative poles of a magnet; an impersonal love.  'Noumenal attraction' would be a good way of putting it. 

You say that you don't love Ron Paul, using the sentimental version of love.  But the impersonal love is definitely there or else there would be no respect, that by default.

[Enigma]

Copy and paste responses.  You are quite gifted, I'm sure...  So, the dictionary doesn't use the word "love" and that means that "respect" is bereft of it? 

For one thing, the definition of love that you pasted there is one-sided.  That is sentimental, personal, fixed love.  There is also the love as between the positive and negative poles of a magnet; an impersonal love.  'Noumenal attraction' would be a good way of putting it. 

You say that you don't love Ron Paul, using the sentimental version of love.  But the impersonal love is definitely there or else there would be no respect, that by default.

You asked my my definition of love and I gave it.  I think what we're discovering here is that words like love are too vague to be debated rationally. 

[pert -5]

You asked my my definition of love and I gave it.

Fair enough, though I'm sure you mean that it is the definition which you use, rather than your own concoction.

I think what we're discovering here is that words like love are too vague to be debated rationally. 

And yet the concept of love is an integral part of the human psyche, on many levels, and not to be simply ignored.  Perhaps then we should first work on preparing the foundation on which our theories and conjectures can stand upon.  Ecumenical definitions would be a good place to start.

[Bill Hemphill]

Enigma, I am not attempting to question you, I am questioning the current definitions of love. Over the centuries people have thrown words around redefining them. Their definition becomes vague and unusable in it's reformed state.