The psychology in alchemy

[DarkPoet]

Jung proposes that alchemists, instead of searching to physically make gold, were trying to make gold of themselves, meaning, become one with themselves, etc.

I think this is definitely a possibility seeing as I've been studying alchemy quite religiously lately and have come across most alchemical texts written in metaphor.

What is your take on this?

[liza123]

Well, I never thought about alchemy. But, I have read about Carl Jung and his dream interpretation theories. It is an interesting about turning oursleves into gold.

BTW, I came across someone who wants to make her own gold and was asking for guidance in one of the other forums

[Chris87]

If you read More of his Collected Works he makes great associations between Alchemy and The Collective Unconcious. I have been studying his works for some time and some people refur to him as a mystic because of his intrest in alchemy, but i challenge those who accuse him of being a mystic to read his Collected Works.

[S. Earl Martin]

Alchemy? Okay I never expected to encounter this topic here, but here goes. I have been researching this for most of my life and I have actually been successful.

First off a few paramiters:
1: Matter does not exsist. Only energy. We precieve something to be in a material state because we have been trained to think of solids liquids and gas. On the smallest level everything is oscillating bits of energy. This is why scientists can't corralate the very small with the very large. 
2: All things oscillate at a given frequency. We see a chair as a chair because we have learned to recognize the chair frequency. That is why we do not precieve a couch as a chair. It has a different , but similar frequence. Chairs come in many different styles and shapes, but we still see it as a chair.
3: If we could measure the frequence of an object and replacate it we could make a matter energy device like the ones in Star Trek. Or we could take energy and turn lead to gold.
4: How could this be accomplished? Ha Ha Ha that is the big question. In electronics we take the negitive pole and attract positive ions. We then force these ions along a wire and using magnetic fields, circuits and motors they do work. If you reverse the process using the positive pole to attract negitive ions a whole other type of work can be done.
5: Using the negitive ions disintigration and reintagration of matter. Super conductivity. Transmutation of matter. Weather control. Warp drive. Alchemy. All are possible.
6: Also the miracles of the Bible are also possible. Water to wine, change the frequency of the water to the frequency of wine. Heal the sick change the frequence of the sick person to the frequency of a well person. Calm a storm a storm is a low pressure system and is negitivly charged. Create a possitive field and the storm calms. Raise the dead restore the life energy  at the correct frequency and they are alive again. Water from a rock water on the earth is negitivly charged create a possitive field and the water will be attracted to it. Part the sea create a negitive field in the water and the water will be held back by a magnetic charge. Collapse the charge and the water will crash together just like two magnets. Walk on water create a negitive field around a person and it will repel the negative charge of the water. They will be held up by the charges repelling each other. The Rapture increase the negitive charge and they will float up to the positive upper atmosphere.
7: Create a strong enough charge and you can move the planets.
I have actually done a number of these. If I can get healthy enough I intend to keep working on more. I encountered a physics professor from a university and told him about this. At first he looked at me like I was crazy. Then I asked him to give me one reason why it wouldn't work. He couldn't. I drew a diagram of a device I built and gave it to him along with my phone number. He gave me his card. I called him about a week later and his receptionist told me he was expecting my call. She put me on hold and when she came back she told me he told her to tell me that " his " research is confiditional and not to call back. Then about a month ago I see that the university has gotten a grant of millions of dollars because of all the progress they have made in super conducivity etc. He is the executor of the grant LOL!
No big deal. I actually had taken my research as far as I safely could and it would have taken someone with an advanced degree to move it forward. So alchemy is possible. If we don't kill ourselves off as a race these devices could start a whole new advance in many fields of science. Peace

[S. Earl Martin]

So I had surgery on Thursday to try and fix my system. My white count was 346,000 the last time they measured it. The surgery is supposed to raise my platlets and lower my white count. It will just postpone the inevitable at best. Unless something changes it is just a matter of time. Praise God in all things. Heaven is waiting and I am ready when ever the end comes. It is not when you go, but where you go that matters.

[S. Earl Martin]

HELLO!!! So the sorcerers stone is an electro magnet connected to the earths gradient in the reverse polarity. Check out "battery hack the planet". This is how the connection is made. Just reverse the polarity. There are a few more tricks to it that I am not going to devulge. LOL! Scientists have been trying to figure out how this works for millinea and all they had to do was reverse the polarity. Bye!

[pert -5]

Jung proposes that alchemists, instead of searching to physically make gold, were trying to make gold of themselves, meaning, become one with themselves, etc.

I think this is definitely a possibility seeing as I've been studying alchemy quite religiously lately and have come across most alchemical texts written in metaphor.

What is your take on this?

Physical alchemy is a pipe dream.  Beyond this though, Alchemy is a psycho-spiritual endeavor--or as you say, "trying to make gold of themselves."  It is the transmutation of the gross, earthly condition into the regal, spiritual state; the transmogrification of consciousness.  The Hermetic Qabalists call it rising from Yetziratic Consciousness to Briatic Consciousness.  There is a plethora of information on the internet concerning such topics that is readily suited to both the curious skeptic and the potential student.

[S. Earl Martin]

Actually if you discount the magical aspect of alchemy and look at it from a scientific perspective. It is quite possible. Everything we can experience on a physical level is made of the same general material. Carbon life forms and oxygen nitrogen enviornment.  Eventually being able to manipulate these and change one form to another should be possible. As scientists continue to measure the structure of matter in more detail manipulating it is just the next logical step. The problem will be will the knowledge of how this works lead to better understanding of how our world works? Or the invention of new and more destructive weapons?

[pert -5]

Actually if you discount the magical aspect of alchemy and look at it from a scientific perspective. It is quite possible. Everything we can experience on a physical level is made of the same general material. Carbon life forms and oxygen nitrogen enviornment.  Eventually being able to manipulate these and change one form to another should be possible. As scientists continue to measure the structure of matter in more detail manipulating it is just the next logical step. The problem will be will the knowledge of how this works lead to better understanding of how our world works? Or the invention of new and more destructive weapons?

Personally--and what does my opinion matter in the scope of things?--I feel that if such transmutation becomes possible, it will lead not to happiness, but to the desire for conquest and greed.  All that mankind needs for happiness is already available readily, it is just overlooked.

[S. Earl Martin]

Yes unfortunatly the nature of most of the human race is how can we use whatever discoveries that are made to kill people or at least take advantage of someone weaker. That is why I have been reluctant to reveal the things I have discovered. Because my health is failing I decided to release some of the information. To see if anyone even believes it. The result was a typical human reaction. Deception. Promises of a partnership and helping mankind. Until I devluged enough info. and bang they can't discuss their research with me anymore. That is why I only gave them a small amount of what I have discovered. It took me around twenty years to make all the discoveries I have made. I figure if they believe what I told them. Which I am pretty sure they did. It will take them at least 2-5 years to discover the rest. By that time I should be on the other side and it won't matter to me.  . Peace and blessings be yours.