Remote influencing ?

[ozziemate]

Horton,
Peace is not something that can be taken as a given right. It is always something that is earned and acheived. We as humans live in a dualistic universal system that guarantees us "no- peace" until union as one is acheived. Ultimately this translates to the sexual uniion between concenting adults, the love union, and the union with the collective upon death.
So the first thing to realise is that peace is only available as a transient thing until you die. [ and even then this may only be transient ~ re: reincarnation ]
Your desire for peace means you have to learn to acheive it. This is not easy, but better to learn the nature of peace and why this provokes the learning curve if strongly desired.

Using physical illness as an analogue. Say for example you have a basil cell melanoma [ skin cancer ] and you desire nothing but peace. Some will ignore the obvious changes to the skin and use denial as a way to find transient peace until the cancer either kills them or it eventually becomes impossible to ignore any longer.

Most persons suffering psychiatric conditions suffer incredibly from societies desire to ignore them as society just doesn't want to deal with what it creates. Yes IMO psychiatric conditions are a social disease created by social psychic paranoia, ignorance  etc...
So your neighbours are like a basil cell melanoma,  you can heal it if you can or you can ignore it like most people will do, but either way peace will never happen, even transiently until the issue is "healed" as any other action will increase the burden of denial and conscious.

Therefore transient peace may indeed be impossible given the curcumstances, yet the desire for something that is impossible can create that which prevents it from becoming possible.
So learn to desire that which is possible by understanding that which you desire...and to learn that peace can only be transient is the first step.

Example: "Eventually after a bit of peace finding with your partner you have to get up and have breakfast"

[hortonpilot]

I feel you a wrong, very wrong.
Ultimate awareness may permit some to find peace in the worst situations, but very few.
You imply then that people do not deserve peace unless at the end of the road to enlightenment.
What i need for peace is very little ,just to have this other person take a degree of responsibility .

The law does nothing when there are offences against my property.
My farm has suffered incredibly  over the period of time this person has been back in the area.
My sheep have been infested with lice because it is transmitted by stray animals entering the property for the last 8 years . this costs me money to treat 3 times a year, it reduces the wool value by 2/3.
My carefully bred sheep have been spoilt by the stray rams getting in and mating with the ewes, consequently the lambs are useless because of the contaminant blood line.
I repair the fences from damages were the sheep push holes in the fences.

I travelled over1500klms to get breeding ewes and when i was away 50 of these were stolen without trace!

Over the last 8 years about 200 sheep have gone missing.
the various authorities sit on their hands over the matter, police , Ag dept and council, in all the inaction is mind-numbing.

*Dont feckin tell me i have done something to deserve a lack of peace!

This is not a situation of my doing and i tread through life with a soft footprint , in part i think by being nice and decent
You have now idea how diplomatic i have been with the various people who just fail to do their job, thinking that it is best to manage the situation this way

I have tried to worry less about the situation as it is in my face all the time.

You put it back on me which is just a cop-out , my situation is cause and effect , my neighbor causes me grief.

Horton

[ozziemate]

My apologies for not understanding your issue prior to posting my comments. I shall endeavour to do better next time.
Of course the neighbour by your account is lacking social responsibility and consideration empathy etc.
Now unless you are a God in disguise what can you do to change him/them?
Jack shit as far as I can tell from your posting.
The only responibility you have is to your self and how you "Feel" regarding this situation. You cannot assume responsibility in a conventional sense given the neighbours you have, except that you are choosing to remain neighbours. Possibly looking for a better neighbourhood may be in order.

Now before you ask "Why should I have to change my address it isn't me that is causing the problem"

The answer is that you are unhappy being where you are....simple as that.

It's a bit like buying a farm next to a so called permanent stream of mountain water  and then shortly after moving in, the stream runs "permanently dry" due to a massive natural land fall change upstream.

What are you going to do? I think you neighbours are a bit like that...and the more you want them to change the less likely they will..so what's left?

[ozziemate]

Also if you feel you have been influencial in the dishing out of justice Karmically as you have suggested earlier, then Karma is giving you a challenge to learn something from... this is the nature of it.

You are assuming resonsibility in part for karmic justice ... well assuming is one thing and having the self restraint and self discipline necessary to be successful at it is another...so IMO Karma [ life] is allowing you an opportunity to learn what it takes to "Assume" responibility for participating in Karmic justice in a conscious manner.
And these forum posts are just as much a part of your Karmic "picture" as your neighbours are.
Again apologies if I have offended as I have no intention of doing so...

[hortonpilot]

Given the neighbor is in strife and possible for-closure could be on the cards , do you wait it out if this is very likely?

The trail for the person is going fairly badly by all accounts.

Do you just add a bit more fuel to the fire in making proper legal complaints were you can.

The idea of moving is something i have thought of but it is a last resort .
It would be a pity to move and have the neighbor go afterward.

Sometimes you have to do what is required , it could be moving it could be dig-in.

Hard to tell really.

Horton

[hortonpilot]

Your previous post ,

In part it is a face-up between the person and myself ,being a small community  many have been burnt by this person and annoyed but some have just come to accept it .
For me i am not pedantic about things  but i don't like work being created for me  and my sheep being stolen , some locals know more but remain silent.

I work in the NHS and come across the locals many who like me for how we conduct ourselves as a family.

In doing nothing the locality is degraded and there is a sense of lack of trust in that things go missing or events happen.

It irritates me that some are so weak-minded they will not protect their own doorstep.
One simply can not say these people are leaving it to karma to sort out their woes, it is just plain apathy.

I don't struggle against the offender as a crusade for the community but only for what i believe is reasonable in my own situation.


Horton.

[Bill Hemphill]

Ellion!, I suggest that for fun you take up the meaning of truth. I think you will see that you cannot find what someone believes to be true different from another ones  contradiction.

[Bill Hemphill]

Ellion, what I mean to say is one persons truth must agree with all peoples truth for it to be considered "true". There is only truth. It can't be different from one person to another. Maybe you could explain your position.

[ozziemate]

Bill, are you suggesting "truth by consensus" as a test of truth?

[Bill Hemphill]

Not at all. I only mean that if something is true it cannot be false somewhere else.

[ozziemate]

true!
Unless we decide to make it false every experience is true...IMO
After all that is what lying is....claiming a truth is false... [ by default of deciding to lie ]

[Bill Hemphill]

I would say the experience is true but peoples perspective of what they see is not necessarily true. The perception can be false.

[hortonpilot]

Denial exists as an art form for most people!



Horton

[Bill Hemphill]

Horton, you said,

In doing nothing the locality is degraded and there is a sense of lack of trust in that things go missing or events happen.

Cool your heels. It's Ok. But look what you have done. You have equated nothing with something. Your perceptions of things I think you should question. They are not what you think they are. Okay?

[ozziemate]

In a way I agree with Bill. The reason is that so far Horton, you have quoted only suspicions and very little fact. This is not to say that your suspicions are unfounded it is just that they need to be supported by facts that can be determined by others as facts also before any significant action can take place.

Police action is necessarilly pragmatic and requires evidence that would stand the test of all observers thus "psychic pheno" remains in the realm of speculation and interpretation until it is provable in the public and conscious domain as "fact" [truth as witnessed "individually" and not by "consensus" by all observers]

Obviously if you have ever been a victim of a "witch hunt" you will understand the need for such pragmatism.

There is a need to deal with the duality of perceptions as your experience is unable to be used as evidence alone and requires collaboration by any others that have not been "influenced" by your suspicions and speculations.

[ozziemate]

Example:
A few years ago I and many others witnessed a “Street Person” behaving in a way that would suggest they were in a state of severe mental trauma. She was literally walking around close to naked in a public plaza shopping precinct. Crying and yelling but never actually breaking any law.
The police were unable to interfere because she was acting with in her legal rights. She rejected any offers of help and support.
This went on for many days until one day she attempted to solicit [prostitution] from me which I declined. Where upon she got extremely angry and attacked me. I restrained her and then let her go, she then attacked again biting my right arm as I restrained her waiting for security and police to arrive.
The police agreed to arrest her for battery [video evidence available] but were obliged to transport her out of the area and release her even though she showed all the typical signs of mental dysfunction.
I couldn’t believe that the police were so encumbered by legal restraint.
Fortunately as she was being let out of the police van she apparently attacked the police and THIS was when the police could actually get her into a psychiatric facility as they were now legally obliged to do this under law because she had attempted to batter a police officer.
I believe she finally received the treatment she needed to get out of her tragic state but it took such a serious action by her to make it happen.

Facts though are always required before serious action can be offered.

[ozziemate]

The thing is ...the soliciting that I declined is unable to be proven as sound recordings are not available but the battery was due to collaborating evidence [eye witnesses and video]. The police were then only able to act on what was witnessed and not what was only able to be speculated upon. They could not arrest her for prostitution nor would my testimony of solicitation hold much weight in court.