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« on: November 03, 2009, 05:25:25 AM »
Hello, I've registered onto this site just to post this question, before I begin I'd like to say that I have posted this on the 'Yahoo Answers' site, but have only gotten two responses, neither of which I was looking for. Onto my issue,
I am going to copy and paste what I wrote on the Yahoo Answers page. I will attempt to put it in a quote.

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For about four months now, I've been experiencing some sort of another mind, inside of my mind, saying extremely negative and offensive things about myself, and my interests. For example, I am a big fan of 'Billy Meier', a man who has had contact with if memory serves, a race of humanoid aliens dubbed the Plejarens. One of the Plejarens, Semjase, lost her husband when I believe he crashed into the sun. When I think of this, or when I think of Semjase, this mind thing seems to find it funny, and will joke about it, and say offensive things. It feels like someone is controlling my mind, it won't stop. It feels as if everytime this thing 'says' something, my body feels extremely hot, and I feel really odd. I don't understand what this is, is this a symptom of sociopathy? MPD? If anyone must know, I am a teenager, soon to be 14, not sure if that matters, but is this something normal 14 year olds go through? Is this normal, or am I insane? I don't sleep often, I sleep for about seven hours, give or take, could this be the cause? I feel like I'm going insane, I can't make this thing stop talking. Please help.

Thank you in advance, if you need anymore details, please ask. I need to stop this thing before it gets worse.



When asked about what other 'symptoms' I have, I replied with this,

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It tries to interfere with my thoughts, and add negative ones. An example would be if I'm thinking of say, a garden, 'IT' would make the flowers in the garden die, or bleed. If it helps, I have suicidal thoughts, and I do have depression. I also thought the depression could have something to do with this, but I've never heard of this mental thing as a symptom of depression. I want to go to a doctor of some sort, but my family cannot afford a doctor, so I'm stuck.
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Some more detail,

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Also, I feel I should mention that if will also add in thoughts of me having sex with some sort of creature, or something of a different species. It'll also make me thing of disgusting things, such as bodily fluids and feces. When I bring this up to my peers, or even to people on the internet, it'll leave for like five minutes. It will make me thing I don't have this issue anymore. It tries to get me to kill myself, it will tell me that there's no point in living. I'm not so very social with humans, and it will tease me on this subject. It will say things such as 'why would anyone want to talk to you, you're a horrible person', however, I thought this was just myself talking, because, as I stated above, I do have depression. This 'voice' doesn't sound like my voice either. It doesn't sound like it had a gender, or a sound, if that makes sense. It will also, very rarely, control my facial expressions.
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When an individual commented on how it sounds like I am possessed, and that I should go to a psych hospital, I replied with,

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To be honest, I have thought this was some sort of a demon, I'm not very religious. And now that you do bring it up, when I see a church, or go by one, I get sick. This is probably because I have a grudge against religious people, though. I do want to go to a psych hospital, I want them to help me, but I'm just so damn afraid that they are going to put me in one of those rubber rooms with a straight jacket on. On a different note, my house IS haunted, but my mother blessed the house, I don't know how a demon or whatever could come into a blessed house?
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I really do not like what's going on with me, I've been thinking that if this could be something to do with the fact that I don't sleep often, as the 'not being able to control my mind from thinking odd stuff' thing occured just after I stopped sleeping. However, I've stopped sleeping multiple times, and this has not happened.
I am completely clueless as to what this issue is, or what it could turn into.
Could trauma in my life have caused this mental thing to appear?
Also, I feel I am constantly being watched, thus why I do not want this 'thing' thinking up 'bad' thoughts about the 'aliens'.
It's all very confusing to me, and will probably be just as confusing to anyone reading this. Do other individuals have this same problem?

Thank you in advance.

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« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2009, 12:12:20 PM »
this is not an unusual experience, many people have similar experiences.

have you had any traumatic experiences in your past?

And the  LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as  one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:

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« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2009, 08:18:24 PM »
Yes. I have had abuse, from sexual, to physical, to verbal, all through out my life. But so have my siblings, yet, I seem to be the only one who is serverely bad?

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« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2009, 10:25:29 PM »
your siblings might have a different strategy to deal with their trauma, people cope with problems in different ways.

this does not mean you are any worse or they are any better. just different. yet you are the same in many ways. and as mentioned above many people will have similar (psychological) experiences.


a point to be aware of: there are a couple of things that will make your psychological problems worse,

poor sleeping pattern, drug and alcohol use and stress.



how do you feel about the experiences you have?
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« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2009, 11:15:48 PM »
What scares me is that I've never heard of anything like this, so I suppose I feel alone.

I have a horrible sleeping pattern, and my stress level is through the roof.
I also frequently have panic attacks. I have MAJOR anxiety issues.
I've never had the chance to see a therapist, however, I would love to.

Which experiences do you mean? My past experiences? My childhood experiences?
If so, I think nothing of them, usually.
Most of the things that have happened to me in the past don't bother me, unless I think way too hard about them.
The sexual abuse does not affect me, usually, however, other things do, but I usually just tell myself that I deserved everything, even though I know this is not true. It's all so very confusing, especially for someone who is around my age.

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« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2009, 12:19:39 AM »
i think that is ok to feel the way you do about what you are going through. it is common for people that have different experiences to feel that they are on theyre alone and they are going mad or what ever.

i was wondering about the experiences you are having now. what is you feelings about these voices that tell you what to do and criticise you etc? what is your attitude towards them and also how do you feel about yourself?  
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And the  LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as  one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:

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« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2009, 12:40:01 AM »
To put it short, I hate myself. I dislike myself for some odd reason.
However, there are times when I do like myself, but that's somewhat rare.

I don't think much about the voices I guess, I just want them to go away. Mainly the one in my head. It thinks up disgusting stuff, as stated above. I guess I hate it, I mainly just find it annoying.

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« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2009, 11:23:55 PM »
hey, sorry i never got back to you sooner, i have too much to do lately. :(

do you have anybody that you trust who you can talk to? what country do you live in?

about the voice in your head, do you get angry with it when you become aware of it?

are you doing anything about managing your stress levels, and improve your sleep?

And the  LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as  one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:

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« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2009, 10:27:52 PM »
It's fine, I understand. Thanks for trying to help me, by the way.

Not exactly, no. My family is of no help, my mother thinks it has something to do with my teenaged hormones or something. And my sister doesn't care about the matter. Since I am anti-social and don't like going out in public, I have no friends, as I'm not fond of people.  I live in the USA.

Only if it talks badly about something I enjoy, or myself.

No, I don't sleep because I have a severe phobia of something that might happen in the night, and I don't think I would be able to control my stress levels until I move out.

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« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2009, 07:10:02 PM »
It's fine, I understand. Thanks for trying to help me, by the way.

Not exactly, no. My family is of no help, my mother thinks it has something to do with my teenaged hormones or something. And my sister doesn't care about the matter. Since I am anti-social and don't like going out in public, I have no friends, as I'm not fond of people.  I live in the USA.

you said that you cannot go to see a professional but have you checked out if there are any charitable organizations near where you live that provide support and counselling?

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Only if it talks badly about something I enjoy, or myself.
good, it is better not to focus too much negative emotion towards this part of your mind, just observe the comments and allow it to go quiet as much as you can.

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No, I don't sleep because I have a severe phobia of something that might happen in the night, and I don't think I would be able to control my stress levels until I move out.
controlling stress levels can be done anywhere. you just need to find sometime to relax. do some of the things you enjoy. change of environment.

check out this link and browse around the self help section,
http://www.glasgowsteps.com/information/stress/psychosis-voices.php

  it has many resources to help you including guided relaxation, advice about hearing voices, some educational booklets mental health, some stories from other people.

if you can get to a library to borrow books i will be able to recommend some good books too.
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And the  LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as  one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:

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« Reply #10 on: November 14, 2009, 09:54:21 PM »
No, I have not. If I did find one that is near my area, I would (most likely) not be able to get a ride there, seeing as how we only have one car, and my mother constantly works.

I have checked out the link, it has actually made me feel a bit better knowing other people have gone through this type of thing.

I have about two library's around where I live, I could attempt to get someone to drive me to one of them. What books would you recommend?

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« Reply #11 on: November 17, 2009, 11:55:54 PM »
i am pleased you found that site helpful there are a lot of useful resources linked from that page. stress reduction and relaxation. ;)

i would recommend Mind Over Mood: Change How You Feel by Changing the Way You Think

and The Feeling Good Handbook

and

The Relaxation & Stress Reduction Workbook (New Harbinger Self-Help Workbook)

all really good, all are workbook format so asking you to do some experiments and exercises keep a diary or chart of your thoughts and behaviour. worht doing if you want to change the way that you think and feel.


about the counselling. you dismissed the possibility before you have explored. what about finding out what you can about free agencies in your area and then decide if you can make travel arrangements when you know for definite if it is available??
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« Reply #12 on: November 22, 2009, 10:09:21 PM »
Thanks, I'll check them out.

I'll try to check out the counselling as well. Thank you.

So you don't find what I'm going through, even the thoughts of feces and alien intercourse to be anything serious?

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« Reply #13 on: November 23, 2009, 06:36:32 PM »
it is really not for me to say what is wrong or right with you, or if that is serious or not serious.

often when we worry about something we make that thing worse, just by paying negative attention to a thing we build around it a negative force that we then have to deal with, whether that force exists just in our minds or out there in reality is irrelevant we have to deal with what our mind has created.  

what i can say about your situation is that trauma and stress can and often does cause people to have experiences like you are having. these experiences do not mean we are insane and it does not mean we will be like that forever.

get to the library, get some of those books, keep reading about it, keep looking for ways to improve yourself, find ways to relax and enjoy yourself. set your self some challenges set yourself some goals, your life can be a lot more than you might realise. change can be unsettling but change happens everyday and you yourself are constantly changing. think of how you would like to be. think of how you would like your life to be, and focus your energy on making yourself and your life how you want them to be.
And the  LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as  one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:

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« Reply #14 on: November 27, 2009, 12:01:40 AM »
Yes, I've heard that. People always tell me that to solve a problem, this one specifically, to stop thinking about it, it's easier said than done though.

Thanks, I'll try that. I truly appreciate your help. Thank you.

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« Reply #15 on: November 27, 2009, 09:35:53 AM »
stopping thinking about something is not easy and actually take a lot of effort, i would never advise somebody to try to stop thinking about something because unless that person is skilled in meditation and mindfulness they are likely to think more about the subject they are trying not to think about.

example, if i say dont think about a polar bear, i imediately presents the idea of a polar bear and as you try to stop thinking about it you think more about it.

thinking about other things is different, find other occupations, things you enjoy, and things that are challenging, solving problems, etc, occupies your mind so you have less time to think about polar bears.


 
And the  LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as  one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:

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« Reply #16 on: November 27, 2009, 03:07:23 PM »
The bad thing with that is, what interests me, and what it seems I can only think about, are negative, weird, serial-killer type stuff.

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« Reply #17 on: November 27, 2009, 07:22:31 PM »
negative, weird, serial killer type stuff, such as what?
And the  LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as  one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:

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« Reply #18 on: November 29, 2009, 11:20:26 PM »
Sorry for the late response.

Stuff you wouldn't think a 'normal' now fourteen year-old would think up.
Myself as a serial killer, painting on the walls with my victims' blood, hurting children, clawing at myself with my nails in a padded cell, ect.

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« Reply #19 on: November 30, 2009, 10:16:26 PM »
you find this stuff interesting? or do you keep thinking about but are not interested in it?

either way can this be turned into something helpful to yourself such as some research into a particular are of interest or a pursuit of some knowledge or understanding? i dont know what you might find helpful but you get my point?
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« Reply #20 on: December 01, 2009, 02:53:14 AM »
Yes, this is the type of stuff I find interesting, yet at the same time, I'm trying to get myself un-interested in them due to the fact that I know it's not normal, It's like I can't shut the thoughts off, and I don't like that, yet at the same time, I do? That probably doesn't make sense. 

I really don't know if it could be used for 'good'. Telling someone this would certainly get me locked up into an asylum, I know that.

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« Reply #21 on: December 01, 2009, 05:04:10 AM »
I had some pretty fucked up thoughts around your age.  I eventually just grew out of it. 
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« Reply #22 on: December 01, 2009, 05:24:40 AM »
Seriously? It's nice knowing I'm not the only person in this world who is completely screwed in the head.

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Okay, I've just re-read this post, and it seems kind of cruel, and I phrased it VERY wrong, so sorry about that. I don't mean to imply that you are, or ever were, screwed in the head. Just thought I'd clear that up.
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« Reply #23 on: December 01, 2009, 10:29:04 PM »
No offense taken.  I was into Satanism, serial killers, school shooters, gore, murder etc.  The fact that you realize that these type of thoughts is socially unacceptable is definitely a good sign. 
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« Reply #24 on: December 01, 2009, 11:46:08 PM »
You sound exactly like me, well, as far as thoughts go, that is. I live with people, namely family who pretty much every single day tell me that I am fucked up, and that they think I'm going to end up being a serial killer, so I forced myself to realize that these thoughts are unacceptable, thinking that would fix me and maybe they would 'accept' me, I guess it didn't want to work. I was born in Philadelphia, I think it's the air there that messed with me. :P

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« Reply #25 on: December 03, 2009, 11:04:09 AM »
Hello Alien,

The first thing you have to understand is that, as explained below, your symptoms do not constitute your problem; they are produced by your right brain, “another mind, inside of my mind,” outside of your conscious control to protect you, to help you solve your real problems. There is nothing abnormal with your symptoms, in the sense that they are what they should be, given the circumstances of your life.

You have two real problems: (a) you are lonely; (b) you have some misconceptions about yourself because you have been abused in childhood. The first problem is a consequence of the second one but is kept active by your continuing inability to make friends.

All children are loved and taken care of by adults. But some adults abuse the children they love. In reality, this happens very often, in varying measures in various ways. Children become aware of the abuse at different ages and after being abused in different measures. These differences can be due to various factors. For example, a lovely child receives more love and care from adults and trusts them more compared to an ugly child.  Consequently, a lovely child is more open to abuse than an ugly child and becomes aware of the abuse later than the ugly child. When an abused child becomes aware of this fact, he/she produces defensive behaviors which contrast with his/her earlier trusting and loving attitude. In a way he/she becomes bad.

It appears that you became aware of being abused later than your siblings because of reasons mention above, for example. Your contemporary bad behaviors are delayed reaction. But this too is not a mistake, as explained below.

All non-organic mental disorders are caused by unbearably harmful failures. Your failures are presented above as your two problems. Symptoms seek to terminate the failures and their harmful consequences. The most harmful mental consequence of physically and socially harmful failures is that they suggest mental insufficiency. For example, a lovely and good natured child who becomes aware of the abuse too late and may even have unknowingly helped his/her abuser to abuse him/her is likely to  develop the fear of mental insufficiency. This idea or fear remains repressed in various degrees of effectiveness and necessitates being eliminated totally because it is very harmful and is in reality totally baseless. Symptoms do this “job” too. Some of your symptoms are interpreted below.

“Another mind, inside of my mind, saying extremely negative and offensive things about myself.” Your unconscious is warning you about the mistakes that you are making in evaluating and dealing with your problems.

“It feels like someone is controlling my mind.” Your abuser controlled you because stopping him was impossible for you as a child; you cannot blame yourself for that.

“It tries to interfere with my thoughts.” Your abuser was capable of controlling your thoughts; as a child, you could not stop him; you cannot blame yourself for that.

“IT would make the flowers in the garden die, or bleed.” He was too bad and strong; he hurt everything nice, not only you. You cannot be blamed for that.

Your depression is caused by your idea of having totally failed, which is due mainly to your current inability to solve your problems and to make friends in addition to your past failure to protect yourself. Depression serves to restrict activity for preventing further failures.

“Thoughts of me having sex with some sort of creature, or something of a different species.” Your abuser was “inhuman.” You could do nothing about that.

'”Why would anyone want to talk to you, you're a horrible person.” You are unable to make friends because you expect everyone to be bad to you like your abuser was.

“This 'voice' doesn't sound like my voice either. It doesn't sound like it had a gender.” You don’t behave like you should; be more active and masculine instead of blaming yourself for everything bad that happened to you.

“When I see a church, or go by one, I get sick.” You are blaming God for not terminating your sufferings and you are blaming yourself for not deserving his help. Be more masculine and try to solve your problems yourself instead of blaming God or yourself passively.

The symptoms of non-organic psychological disorders have self-protective functions but also have harmful side effects like most, or all, medicines. Unlike animals, humans produce very complex defensive symptoms because they have a more developed brain.  Animals are not equipped with the defense mechanisms possessed by humans. Unlike humans, an animal made to experience harmful failures repeatedly loses its abilities that serve to keep it alive. This phenomenon is called “experimental neurosis.” Scientists have still to discover what a wonderful instrument the human brain is, including yours.

THERAPEUTIC ADVICE

You have to realize that being loved and abused in various measures is the fate of all children; and sexual abuse is not the only form of abuse. Some children are hurt more than others because of circumstances that no child could control. Therefore there is no reason for self-accusation of any kind because of being abused in childhood. It is also wrong to expect everyone to be bad.

You must try to make friends. You will be helped by the knowledge that no human being is a perfect devil or an angel. You must learn to protect yourself without assuming in advance that everyone is bad. You must realize that people try to associate with someone to share his/her experiences, especially his/her successes and happiness. If you have no success and happiness the share with others, they will try to share other things that you may possess, and you will evaluate this as being abused. Therefore you must try to make yourself successful and happy in a masculine way using any available means. There are means of making oneself successful and happy even in loneliness. Above all, trust your brain and seek success in any form. Success is the best remedy.


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« Reply #26 on: December 16, 2009, 04:10:36 PM »
Thank you, alloker. A good chunk of that actually does sound right. My abuse was mainly verbal and mental, not so much physical, so I don't understand why it would effect me this bad? It seems as if physical effects people more than verbal and whatnot?

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« Reply #27 on: December 16, 2009, 05:57:08 PM »
As I mentioned, abuse has many forms, and different persons respond differently to the same type and same degree of abuse. A person's past experiences, the general environmental conditions, and maybe even organic predisposition evidently play a role in determining his/her response to abuse. For example, being controlled closely can cause schizophrenia even in the absence of physical abuse. Also, physical abuse may not cause any response that can be considered a mental disorder although it can influence the character of the person. In any case, you have to try to improve your interpersonal relations.

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« Reply #28 on: December 17, 2009, 09:23:44 AM »
So whatever this is is somewhat normal, and past experiences have caused this? Are my past experiences also the reason for my confusion about everything, and my dislike of most people?

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« Reply #29 on: December 17, 2009, 11:32:15 AM »
You dislike most people because you have been mistreated by many of them in the past. Consequently, life does not make sense to you, and this is why you are confused about everything.

 

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