Fetish Leads to A-Sexuality?

[anonymous100]

Is there any evidence of a fetish leading to A-Sexuality?  I know there are objectophiles (Such as that woman who is in love with the Eifel Tower).  However this is still not A-Sexuality since there is a sexual attraction, I assume.  Is there any clinical evidence of someone being treated for this type of fetish?

[Kallisti]

I don't really think you can have a fetish and technically be asexual, though I've heard of fetishes that lead to no sex (chastity fetishes are a good example).

[susie23]

i don't think thats actually possible because just having a fetish even a contrdicting one would suggest a sexual response to stimuli.
the women who like the eiffel tower proberbly like it because it is essientially phallic shaped which, chances are, what drwas them in the first place.

[hortonpilot]

Or could be a Fine Arts student?

can one have a fetish for a fetishist?

i think i got one.

Horton

[DevilsAdvocate]

Throw a paperwad my way if this is a silly question, but could you define asexual? I was under the impression that it was the "self reliant" sexuality. For example: When the person isnt necessarily turned on by the human body, religious views frightens them into it, or they have an alternative source of arousal that never includes human contact.

If you use my explanation, then I dont see why it couldnt happen. If the obsession grows and amplifies to the point where nothing else matters or they do not desire anything/anyone else... well isnt that considered Asexual Behavior?

I will throw out a preposterous example simply to make sure that it made sense to more than just myself. Lets say Johnny has always had a thing for John Deere tractors. He had a vast collection when he was a child, but it is much more than that now. He likes to sit in his room and flip through the pages of his Deere Daily while stimulating himself. He used to enjoy the pictures with the Daisy Duke-type models posing next to the tractor, but now it simply bothers him. They are blocking his view. Johnny has lost his drive for human contact and is now fetishistic towards mowers, and mowers alone. Hasnt the obsession evolved into a fetish that in turn evolved into Asexuality?

[hortonpilot]

You could be describing 50% or more of rural men.
Men behave oddly around "Johnnies"!

Even wonder why rural men have toys under the bed/

Horton

[Sparrowhawk1161]

A fetish is a strong sexual attraction to something that would normally be not erotic.  Psychology overrates fetishes.  Why are fetishes treated?  Let's say you have a hair fetish.  If that's the only way you can be arroused, that can be a prolem.  Fetishes are in stages.  In simple terms:

1 OK fetishes.  You have a hair fetish and it's only an extension.  You can find sexual plessure in the normal way...you just find hair sexy too.  Normal.
2 Clinical fetishes.  You only find the fetish object sexual.  Nothing else.  That can lead to low self-esteme.  sexual problems.
3 associal type fetishes..you must steal the object for the arousal.  The stealing is actually more arousing than why your stealing
4 Dangerous fetishes... You must harm someone for the fetish...again, the arousal is in the harming not the object...

Most fetishes are in the catagory of number one.  Long legs...certain clothing... hair... feet... shoes.  It's an extension of the normal sexuality we all have.

Read up on it (It's NOT some type of demon thing from the X-files!)

[Sparrowhawk1161]

Oh..  Forgot. As the topic suggests... does fetishes lead to a-sexuality?

I gather your talking either about masterbation or non-functionality.

Masterbation is a sexual tension reliever.  If a person uses masterbation to a fetish it can lead to non sexual behavior toward woman... The person can use the fetish as a substitute for sex....

Non- functionality... never heard of it.   If you have a strong sexual attraction to something, your sexuality is active.

[hortonpilot]

Could you be thinking fetishism leads to difficult arousal and incomplete sexual function?

This is suggested by the theory of stimulation over-load and escalating fetishism, perhaps.


Horton

[Sparrowhawk1161]

Horton?  It's definitely possible.  If a person believes that they can not find sex they might use their sexual fetish as a substitute to their own self-esteeme issues.

Stimulation over-load.  It depends on the masterbation habit associated with it.

Let's say a guy uses fetish material for arousal.  That's a substitute for sex...or it could be a way of relieving sexual tension.  IF that's what he is used to, it would be hard to have actual sex... because of non-association with normal male-female relations

The best medicine for that is to lay off of it for a while.    His sensativity toward normal sexuality gets heightened.

The best way to stop a 'clipping" fetish...(Looking at two dimensional pictures for grtification needs) is to stop it.

Masterbation fetishes cause a decrease in ability to have sexual relations.  The more you get hooked on masterbation, the more fantasy takes over as sexual gratification.  The masterbation habit needs to be stopped, first.

Then, normal sexual relations need to be heightened until normality takes over...  For fetish sufferes... that's easier said then done, though?

[hortonpilot]

One of my fav' areas of humor is that the sexual fetish of the legal system, barristers and judges have been portrayed as being anything but normal, twisted people from Monty Python days.

As a friend who works in forensics said to me,
"Normal things don't work on them anymore!"



Horton

[Sparrowhawk1161]

One of my fav' areas of humor is that the sexual fetish of the legal system, barristers and judges have been portrayed as being anything but normal, twisted people from Monty Python days.

As a friend who works in forensics said to me,
"Normal things don't work on them anymore!"



Horton

Oh, yes!!! Monty Python.  They should be clinical psychologists!  We'd laugh are problems away!:))

I think everyone with Psych problems should watch Monty Python.  At least, they can make us laugh.

It's good to have humor when we are all trying to figure out our problems!

[hortonpilot]

Sparrow,

humor and kindness.
Often i am just stunned at the basic refusal of people to realise it is about the patient or the other person in the equation rather than themselves.
People forget even when they are being paid to care for others who the focus should really be ?
They also forget that when they lay a bad trip on people at work it has consequences.

Comedians and TV writers are often very quick to identify new events or odd behaviors.

Horton.

[Sparrowhawk1161]

Your right, Horton.

I might not be serious at times, but psychotherapists are a serious subject.

Psychotherapists find themselves in the field for a number of reasons...most want ot help people... at, first?

Therapists should have priotities.  The patient.  Sometimes psychotherapists will use their own experiences to help identify with the client.  By showing them their own experiences, the client clinet/therapist can make a trust bond so the therapist can develope a "relationship" with the client. That can be OK.

But, the client comes first.  The treatment plan should be the priority to helping them.  I see too many therapists talking about their own life or the way they think about subjects than listening to the client and actually helping them.

If you come out of a session feeling that you just were "shouting the breeze" with the therapist, your not getting therapy.  Or, at least, if it caries on everytime you see them...something is wrong?

The problem with the health care system is sometimes we have no choice in who we see.  You are not given the ability to pick and choose therapists so that you find one who is actually listening and helping you with ideas.  It can really be a problem.

[hortonpilot]

I have to admit sexually pleasing and aesthetically pleasing are two different ideas.
When you look at something from the point of aesthetics it can be in a non-sexual way.
Sometimes when you see see something very beautiful you feel respectful?

This is prolly hard for some people to grasp?

[Sparrowhawk1161]

Aesthetically pleasing?  To me that would be like saying...Wow..that's nice mustang convertable...It's pleasing to the senses..envious attraction..
Sexual pleasing means something that can arouse sexual attraction...

The question is what is meant by the term A-sexual...usually a-sexality biologically means reproduction without sex.

Impotence... difficulty in someway of have a gratification.

A fetish can lead to impotence.  If you have a hair fetish...many fetish suffers...(If you want to call them that).. find a picture or some other object as sexually gratifying.  The more this is used...the more engrained a person gets into that specific behavior.  That behavior becomes the only way of gratification so when a person finds themself in healthy sexual intercouse, orgasm can not be reached.  That can lead to impotence in sexual intercouse

[hortonpilot]

You mean they get re-chipped?

If you varied your fetish would that spare you from the fate?

You could do your fetish by numbers drawn from a hat or by the DICE.

Horton

[NataEames]

All BULL!!! Fetishes are so goddamn common, people just dont talk about them. I myself have a pretty bunch, to add.
No asexuality can come from that (but christian parents probably tell their kids that it can LOL)

[hortonpilot]

All BULL!!! Fetishes are so goddamn common, people just dont talk about them. "


People don't talk about much really?

then you wonder how liberated people are?

Some people are in the most miserable relationships...i wonder how they experience sex???

Horton

[NataEames]

Horton,

check this guy out, he says some awesome stuff on the subject





you sound like a smart guy, id like to hear your thoughts on this

[hortonpilot]

About to head off to work will check tonight.
thanks.

*Not being liberated had drastic consequences for people.
More people need to realise this.

A lot of people think being liberated is getting drunk...............


Horton

[anonymous100]

Hello All,

      I understand what you are all saying and I'am worried that because of my fetish and gradification during masturbation, I'am becoming less involved with either sex.  However I have fooled around on the side with another man.  So many friends know me as gay and I have come out recently.  However I don't pursue relationships otherwise with men or women.  Meaning I don't go out of my way, so thats why the fetish is a problem I think.  Wow complicated yeah i know.  I guess my next question is about the man i have fooled around with on the side, i'am incredibly attracted to him but when i look at other men i don't get attracted to them.  Could I be A-sexual but have a fetish for one person?  Can a person have a fetish for another person?? Thanks

[jellyfishattack]

"One of my fav' areas of humor is that the sexual fetish of the legal system, barristers and judges have been portrayed as being anything but normal, twisted people from Monty Python days.

As a friend who works in forensics said to me,
"Normal things don't work on them anymore!"

I really do have a fetish (type1, thank God), for UK Barristers and Judges and their old-fashioned wigs, gown, tippets, sashes, etc. I really love the outfits in the Rumpole of The Bailey days before any 'reforms' took place in court dress, and before Solicitors pled in actual courts. Barristers, QCs - even better, Circuit Judges - better yet, Red Judges - only topped by The Lord Chancellor in his full robes.  I've never mentioned this to anyone I've actually dated, just psychiatrists: one said "any man would be happy to dress up for you", the other said "no man would" - and his brother is a wigged barrister!  Cost is an issue here, barristers wigs (not QC's dress-up long wigs) are at least 1000 pounds, then there's the robe ~ one store offers a "white wig set" for ~ 1500 pounds, but I don't want to say, 'ship all this stuff to Canada, where we don't use this anymore.'

Anyone ever heard of this particular fetish?  All the actors on Rumpole looked sexy in their court dress, and John Thaw certainly did as Kavanagh, [/b][/font]QC.[/size][/size][/size]