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Can we watch sleeping people at Tv for hours?
« on: September 15, 2009, 02:44:03 PM »
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Assume that we're living in a different world.They invented tv 100 years ago but they didn't make tv shows,they made reality show like truman show.They even record truman while he's sleeping.

My point isn't a truman show here,I want to argue about "watching sleeping people" or weird situation like this.For example,watching a tv while it's off.If we grown up with people like watching a tv while it's off,can we like it?Or make it complicated.We grown up with people like watching a tv while it's off,and we realize other good things like books,movies etc,can we still love watching a tv while it's off.By the way,I mean "watch them for whole life;watch tv while it's off for whole life"

First part of question: Assume that everybody is watching truman while he's sleeping and they look like they have fun while watching him sleeping.We grown up with that enviroment.Our family,friends,all people are all fan of watching a sleeping people.Are we gonna enjoy that because of enviroment?
For example,I came to home at 20.00.And I want to watch tv,I opened truman show and he's sleeping and I start to watch him sleeping for 4 hours.Then I go to bed.Next day same thing.Am I(or other people) gonna enjoy watching sleeping people because of enviroment?Or May I(or other people) stop watching tv or doing another thing?

Second part of question;add real world to that problem.We can see that people is dealing with a lot of books,movies,albums,games.A person who wants to make album means there's a life other than watching sleeping people.Do people like watching a sleeping people while there's things like movies,albums etc;?Even they grown up with weird enviroment.Because if we "love" watching sleeping people for hours,if we're real happy,if we got seratonin for these;Then we don't like other things movies,albums etc?Is it true or?

And thirdly..Our assumptions are true or wrong?We "talked about people having fun while watching sleeping people".Can it be possible?I mean let's think about starting;When there isn't a thing called Tv.Television invented and then producers don't want to spent money for it and they did truman show,they even broadcast him while he's sleeping.Do people like watching him while he's sleeping,and it continues for years,it continues to other generations and we grown up a culture with people who likes to watch sleeping people?

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Re: Can we watch sleeping people at Tv for hours?
« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2009, 03:02:09 PM »
Yes, if for some uninmaginable reason that pattern had developed and become a cultural norm, it would endure for some time before changing, and during that time it would probably feel fun for many people. However, as cultural norms develop because they are perceived to be useful at the time they are developed, it would never happen because there is no need being sated by watching something uninteresting (which I assume is the problem you're setting up, as if it were actually interesting, there would be no need for an environmental incentive towards the behavior).

So, in conclusion, "People Sleeping" will never become a prime-time show.
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Re: Can we watch sleeping people at Tv for hours?
« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2009, 10:00:26 PM »
For a real world example of this you could consider Big Brother as its broadcast in the UK.

Channel 4, who makes the show, provides a live feed throughout the night which really does consist primarily of people sleeping or just sitting around. While this is hardly primetime viewing there was a successful campaign to keep it going when C4 decided to scrap it which does suggest that some people find it entertaining. Plus the fact that it�s even on at all must mean someone watches it.

But all that proves is that some people will watch it, not that people will learn to like it.

I would argue that there is some incentive for this behaviour though. The increase in popularity associated with being the one to break exciting news (such as a fight that breaks out in the middle of the night) could be one such example.  
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Re: Can we watch sleeping people at Tv for hours?
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2009, 11:14:25 PM »
Primarily, a majority of social enticements are actually learned, we're not born knowing society. Enjoyment for rap, for example, is not innate, as it is a rather recent invention, yet many people seem to enjoy it.

I find the biggest difficulty with works like this is if the people do indeed enjoy these behaviors or simply the social reconignition they get for it.

So, if you make it fashionable to watch people sleeping, then people will do so.

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Re: Can we watch sleeping people at Tv for hours?
« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2009, 01:34:48 PM »
Primarily, a majority of social enticements are actually learned, we're not born knowing society. Enjoyment for rap, for example, is not innate, as it is a rather recent invention, yet many people seem to enjoy it.

I find the biggest difficulty with works like this is if the people do indeed enjoy these behaviors or simply the social reconignition they get for it.

So, if you make it fashionable to watch people sleeping, then people will do so.

You find it difficult because you're phrasing the question wrong. People don't inherently like or dislike any action, they like or dislike the results of the action. Thus, everyone enjoys "receiving social recognition", but you can't put that up against any specific action such as "watching TV" or "listening to rap music" and conclude there's an inconsistency. Watching TV is an action that is only enjoyable if it's associated with a pleasant result, whereas receiving social recognition is a pleasant result in itself.
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Re: Can we watch sleeping people at Tv for hours?
« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2009, 08:22:03 PM »
Primarily, a majority of social enticements are actually learned, we're not born knowing society. Enjoyment for rap, for example, is not innate, as it is a rather recent invention, yet many people seem to enjoy it.

I find the biggest difficulty with works like this is if the people do indeed enjoy these behaviors or simply the social reconignition they get for it.

So, if you make it fashionable to watch people sleeping, then people will do so.

You find it difficult because you're phrasing the question wrong. People don't inherently like or dislike any action, they like or dislike the results of the action. Thus, everyone enjoys "receiving social recognition", but you can't put that up against any specific action such as "watching TV" or "listening to rap music" and conclude there's an inconsistency. Watching TV is an action that is only enjoyable if it's associated with a pleasant result, whereas receiving social recognition is a pleasant result in itself.

Perhaps I phrased my answer wrong.

I listen plenty to music, or watch TV, or read books that give no advantage socially, simply because I find them to be good, whether it's a compelling story or a decent sound, what I question is if people would find the same enjoyment along with the social recognition from watching people sleep.

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Re: Can we watch sleeping people at Tv for hours?
« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2009, 02:35:47 AM »
My dad would tell my brother that he would watch paint dry if it were on TV. I have noticed some people who just can't not watch the TV if it is on. No matter what is on. In order to have any conversation with them you have to turn off the TV or they will act like they are listening, but will not have a clue what you are saying. I would say they are addicted to watching TV. If they walk into a room with a TV on they just go into a trance and are mesmerized by it.
As far as people watching people sleep goes? I have at times watched different people sleeping in real life for different reasons. I don't make a habit of it.
The question that comes to mind would be "What would be the motivation that the person watching would have to want to watch." Would this motivation be suffecient to entice them to continue to watch?
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