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Bill Hemphill

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Psychiatrists should use psychotherapy . . .
« on: October 06, 2009, 03:45:51 PM »
Most Psychotherapists are merely "talking" to people in need of real psychotherapy. Or giving them pharmaceuticals as SWM pointed out.

When a person goes to a psychiatrist for treatment, it is at a time of great difficulty and they are expecting that the psychiatrist knows something about psychiatry, and this "tool or understanding"will correct the problem.

Instead they receive a large bill for long sessions of discussion that the psychiatrist hopes will wend its way through the persons past and "amazingly" correct the problem.

WHY?
Because these psychotherapists do not know how to use psychotherapy. They know the words but don't understand the functions of the psyche.

For anyone to say that they spend minutes a week for years to talk a person through their past to untie the problem and then they are cured is admitting that they do not know how the psyche works or how what they are doing cures their client or patient.

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Re: Psychiatrists should use psychotherapy . . .
« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2009, 06:51:39 PM »
I truly believe that it is not a good idea to mix these two, at least not with the same patient. If you do it, a role conflict may arise. 
I agree that learning a psychotherapy method is really useful but there are a few problems..

A psychiatrist is a doctor, he/she prescribes drugs and many psychiatrists consider themselves way better then psychotherapists are.

Another thing is that many patients do not really have psychiatry problems but.. psychiatrist will not forward them to a psychotherapist because they need the cash (unethical though..). In depression for instance I saw many psychiatrist only prescribing drugs. While in sever depression this is the best thing to do, in mild depression psychotherapy is a better & safer treatment..

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Re: Psychiatrists should use psychotherapy . . .
« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2009, 02:38:43 PM »
Oh you are correct Joseph! What I mean to say is that  psychotherapists should use psychotherapy.

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Re: Psychiatrists should use psychotherapy . . .
« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2009, 12:38:07 AM »

My own view is that it is a question of problem solving in most cases.
Many times a persons life can be improved by them making better choices?
The choices to a degree determine  so much.

Events sometimes lead a person to the situation where they need help and it is beyond them to deal with their life.
This leads us to the area of healing , perhaps the most important and least understood part ?

Healing the past and recovering one's life , can a therapist help at all?
I hope so.
Is the healing process compatible with a timed session and money?
There is also the risk of a person being institutionalised by the process.
"Same time next week?"

Break-down of the family in western culture means we now might not have the extended support of those who would previously cared.

Process of resolution is an incredibly difficult one and i do think people can help.
But at odds with this are declining resources and a the most basic level the local GP who has only 5 mins for you.

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Re: Psychiatrists should use psychotherapy . . .
« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2010, 10:05:12 PM »
Dr. Drxx, is growing on me again. He from time to time can show a lot of ability. I left his name partially spelled/ did not want a monitor mad at me.

I notice him to be a principled therapist. I think he overlooks things(maybe he just does not mention them).

Keep trying to help people Dr. Dxjx.

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Re: Psychiatrists should use psychotherapy . . .
« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2010, 06:01:37 PM »
This is the reason why insight oriented therapies are fading away, (ie Dynamic, Psychoanalysis)

One can know everything about their past and even how it is influencing them in the present moment but it doesn't mean the individual is going to change their behavior.

This is why CBT is so popular right now, because its an active, in the moment, during and after the therapy, process.

Its actually having the person experience the change needed to alleviate the problem(s) it is also empowering as it sets the individual back in control of his or her life.

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Re: Psychiatrists should use psychotherapy . . .
« Reply #6 on: June 11, 2010, 04:52:13 PM »
WHY?
Because these psychotherapists do not know how to use psychotherapy. They know the words but don't understand the functions of the psyche. "
Bill:

Do you know the reason "they don't understand the "functions of the psyche"?

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Re: Psychiatrists should use psychotherapy . . .
« Reply #7 on: June 11, 2010, 05:02:22 PM »
A psychiatrist is a doctor, he/she prescribes drugs and many psychiatrists consider themselves way better then psychotherapists are. "

Would you be so kind as to elaborate upon "way better then [than] psychotherapists are"?

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Re: Psychiatrists should use psychotherapy . . .
« Reply #8 on: August 01, 2010, 10:02:02 AM »
A good (top 15-20% in their field) psychiatrist is better than a good psychologist (hands down). They know the same things, but the psychiatrist can prescribe the necessary medication directly and has a much more profound understanding of human anatomy and pharmacology. Below the top 15-20%, I'd go for the psychologist over the psychiatrist.
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